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Volume 19, Issue 20 November 14, 2003 |
Scary,
but funny times
Comic Jason Stuart worries about
the nation
by Kaizaad Kotwal
Columbus
Jason Stuart is thrilled to be the first
openly gay comic to perform at the Funny Bone, but he is concerned
about the nation.
Stuart was
just leaving his salon in Los Angeles after a haircut and a healthy
dose of political chat when he paused for an interview by phone.
One thing emerges over many conversations with him: he is certainly
a very political person. He is also consistently hilarious.
"This
is a scary time in our history," he began, referring to the
current Bush administration and their actions to date, both domestically
and internationally.
Talking about
the California recall which Arnold Schwarzenegger won, Stuart
said, "I am a diehard Democrat and I voted against the recall."
"I am
amazed," he continued, "that we spent 23 million dollars
we did not have. I am an actor and a comedian and have never been
in the habit of spending more money than I have had."
Not that Stuart
was a huge fan of present governor Gray Davis. "I dont
see how Arnold will be worse than Gray," he said, "because
they both are of the privileged sort and dont understand
the problems you and I have."
Stuart is
set to headline the Funny Bone Comedy Club in Columbus from November
19-23 with his latest stand up comedy show, "My Big Fat Gay
Jewish Comedy Tour."
He just completed
a co-starring role with Faye Dunaway in the movie Kill Switch,
an independent film in which he plays an Geraldo-esque talk show
host who ambushes Dunaways character on a TV show. The film
also stars Sean Young (Blade Runner, Ace Ventura) and Tony
Goldwyn (Ghost).
Dunaway has
an almost mythological reputation for being a difficult actress,
but Stuart said she was "nothing but professional and great."
"She
was on the set in character," he said, "and she was
like Superman to my Lois Lane. She put her arm around me and we
flew as actors working together on a scene."
Stuart is
known for his recurring role as Dr. Thomas, the gay shrink on
the ABC sitcom My Wife & Kids starring Damon Wayans.
"I loved
that role," Stuart said, "because here was a gay character
telling straight couples what to do to better their relationships."
Hes
also appeared on Will & Grace, The Drew Carey Show, Charmed,
Providence, Murder, She Wrote and HBOs Gia with
Angelina Jolie.
Stuart said
that, although he loved the Will & Grace cast who were
very gracious and professional, the editing process left much
to be desired.
"Its
like being on Survivor," he joked. "They cut
and cut till youre practically not there." He said
Will & Grace is a "very tight ship with people
aboard who really appreciate their success and fame." He
found that Damon Wayans allowed him to "be more funny, be
more creative" during the process of shooting, though.
Recently,
Stuart had a dramatic role in an episode of the Lifetime Networks
series Strong Medicine, which is produced by Whoopi Goldberg.
Stuart plays the role of a host on a cooking program.
Last year
Jason completed a dramatic role in another indie film, Letting
Go, by filmmaker Barbara Daoust, playing the role of a man
in the late 1980s who finds out he is HIV-positive and decides
to die with dignity and grace.
Stuart said,
"I have been looking forward to doing some serious work and
growing as an artist and an actor."
Stuart, as
star and producer, and Michael Gallant, as producer and director,
won the Best Picture Award at the Barcelona Gay and Lesbian Film
Festival for their film 10 Attitudes last summer. The romantic
comedy co-stars Alexandra Paul, comedienne Judy Tenuta, David
Faustino, Sean Kanan, Lydia Nicole, Sheila Kay, Mitch Hara, Scott
Kennedy and Jim J. Bullock. Stuart said that the film will be
released by the end of the year.
Stuart describes
this film as a "Julia Roberts meets Woody Allen meets MTVs
Real World kind of film and it asks the question: Can a
real gay guy find true love in L.A.?"
Before his
Columbus shows, Stuart will be cruising. Not for a pickup, but
performing on a ship in the Caribbean for ten days. The cruise,
not a gay one, was looking for "someone who appealed to both
straight and gay audiences alike," said Stuart.
"So by
the time I come to Columbus," he joked, "I will look
fabulous!"
Stuart is
constantly working on new material and the "Big Fat Gay Comedy
Tour" will not flinch from the controversial stuff like war
and Osama bin Laden.
"Really,"
he said, "what is wrong with our intelligence when they cant
find bin Laden, a six-foot-three guy attached to a dialysis machine?"
He will also
include material about his parents, about dating, and also about
getting older--"I hate it! Its the worst!" He
acknowledges that he looks better than he has ever looked, but
he still abhors the idea of aging.
Stuart has
also always been very open about his relationships and his desire
"to find a husband." Currently single, Stuart said he
longs for the day when he can find his mate so that he can finally
sing the popular tune, "I Finally Found Someone."
Getting back
to politics, I asked him if President Bush has a good chance of
getting re-elected.
"Gosh I hope not!" he exclaimed with a gasp. "I
have no idea what any gay man will want with more of any kind
of bush for four more years."
Catch Jason
Stuart November 19-22 at the Funny Bone Comedy Club at Easton
Town Center in Columbus; call 614-471?5653.
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2002 |
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He's the kindly
therapist from My Wife and Kids, the confrontational nightclub
manager on Will and Grace and has played a slew of memorable
characters in film and TV. Having recently produced and starred
in his own film, Ten Attitudes, which will have a limited
release this year, Stuart fielded questions while dealing with
the housekeeper, working out and driving through his star-studded
neighborhood.
Youre like the gay Ms. America. You know everyone, go
everywhere and have pictures with every celebrity in town. When
will we uncover the artsy nudes you did in college?
There are no nudes. And I really don't want to be a woman. I'm
your average Joe gay guy. Don't get me wrong. I'm a big supporter
of drag queens.
Im sure they're glad to hear it.
Really, I admire what they've done for us with Stonewall and all.
I just don't know why you have to wear a dress to be funny. That's
where the title of my CD, Gay Comedy Without a Dress, comes
from. We need to support not only drag queens, but funny gay guys,
too.
Okay, we get it. No dresses. So speaking of funny gay guys,
I hear you're in a new Will & Grace, tormenting Jack.
Yes, Joan Crawford and I are...Joan Crawford...why did I say that?
Glenn Close! I meant Glenn Close...which is almost the same thing.
Anyway we were both on and I was thinking because we're both on
show, I'll probably get cut.
Because you're such similar types.
No! Because that show is like Survivor. You start out having
all these scenes and, in the end, you're lucky if you make it
in the episode.
I also understand you were in bed with Damon Wayans recently.
Yes, it was incredible.
It's a very funny episode of My Wife and Kids. Damon's
character puts his back out and his wife assumes it's psychosomatic.
So she gets me to come over and check on him. I was standing by
the bed while we were rehearsing it and I said, I'm just
going to get in with him.
I see you're campaigning for a love interest on the show.
I have one; he's just never been seen. My fantasy would be Esai
Morales from NYPD Blue.
So you're playing a therapist and, as you know, Hollywoods
power couples are dropping like towels in a steam room. Give us
some advice for the ones who are still around.
I say, if you have a problem...just shut up about it! We all have
problems. Terrible things that happen to us, but theres
no reason to share your pain with the whole country.
So you didnt shed a tear over any of them ?
When Tom and Nicole broke up I laughed, I cried, it was better
than Cats. And then there was Ellen and Anne and Melissa
and Julie. All of the sudden, there were U-hauls driving all over
LA looking for a place to park. Right now I'm passing Faye Dunaway's
house. She's outside spraying one of her trash cans and screaming
at her maid.
She is not! You're Lying!
Okay, well we do have the same UPS guy.
Speaking of packages. Whats with the pictures of you
in your underwear on your Website.
You make me sound so bad...You're trying to make me out to be
something I'm not. I want to be like Carol Burnett...
Ha! Carol Burnett is a woman! You said you didn't want to be
a woman.
That's it! I'm hanging up!
What is it? Is it the housedress and the mop you're craving?
You're old and you're
bitter!
Im old? I'm 32. How old are you?
What? That...I have no idea. Dont bother me with little
questions. I thought you didn't want me to talk about my web site.
No, its fine. You've got an enormous site. Its
bigger than Amazon. com.
Look at that, you're trying to make me feel bad. Make me pay for
being a success why don't you! I just think it's all so cool and
I'm excited about it.
Did you do the site yourself?
I have a fan in Houston...
Just the
one?
You're a bitchy, angry, negative man....so are you single?
Bosie Crawford
You may e-mail Bosie at bcrawford@metrosource.com.
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The
Advocate
April 30, 2002 |
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Damon Wayans
has a new therapist, and he's gay. On the hit series My Wife
and Kids, now in its second season on ABC, Wayans and TV bride
Tisha Campbell-Martin have been searching for the right shrink.
It seems they've found one in out actor-comic Jason Stuart. Stuart,
whose character appeared in a single episode last season, has
been asked to portray the therapist as a recurring role.
The show is a family show, and I think they needed some
spice in the oat-meal," says Stuart. "They needed something
to jazz up the show to get different kinds of viewers."
With Stuart's episodes airing during the critical period of May
sweeps, a gay therapist could be just what the ratings doctor
ordered. Yet one can't help but wonder if Stuart's therapist will
be subjugated to the same stereotypical (albeit hilarious) brand
of humor Wayans displayed with his outrageously fey "Men
on Film" characters on In Living Color.
Stuart, who paid his dues as an openly gay stand-up comic, understands
breaking the rules of political correctness for comedy. "It
was very stereotypical," Stuart says in acknowledging Wayans's
portrayal of gays. "But if you look at the show, that's everything
that they did. When they did the Homeboy Shopping Network, the
black cornmunity went nuts. They skewered everyone."
Stuart and Wayans met when starting out in stand-up. "We
auditioned for the Comedy Store the same night," says Stuart.
"So I've known him 18 years. Since we were babies. I used
to drive him home because he didn't have a car." When it
came to casting the gay therapist Wayans immediately thought of
his old friend. Stuart proudly notes, "I didn't audition
for this part. I was offered it."
He's also happy with the development of the character and his
sexuality. "This guy is really sweet, and he really, really
wants to help people. But he can't stop talking about his own
relationship," Stuart explains. "It was wonderfully
written and I've done a lot of sitcoms."
Stuart's done a lot of television, period. He's been seen on Charmed,
Providence, Three Sisters, The Drew Carey Show, and is set
for an upcoming guest appearance on Will & Grace. But
he concedes that getting work hasn't always been easy. "When
I was 16 and I started going to the studios and dropping off my
pictures, people dismissed me," he remembers. "They
didn't know what to do with somebody like me. It was very difficult."
When asked about the pitfalls of coming out professionally, the
comic gets serious. "There have been days when I thought,
Why did I do this? This is so hard. And people have been so mean
to me, especially the club owners. Being an openly gay person
is so complicated. The hardest thing is that a lot of the gay
parts go to straight people. At least let me have those parts."
But Stuart never considered hiding behind a heterosexual persona.
"Paul Lynde and Charles Nelson Reilly broke the glass then,"
he says. "I want to break the glass ceiling now. I want to
be a character actor that plays all different kinds of parts.
I'd like to win an Academy Award for playing a straight guy and
get onstage and thank my husband. The only thing is, I need to
have a husband to thank."
Kaye is an independent writer-producer for television and film.
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St
Louis Post-Dispatch
March 15, 2002 |
By Doug Kaufman
Special to the Post-Dispatch
Actor-comedian
Jason Stuart, who is gay, owes a tremendous debt to the public
coming out party of another standup comic.
"Ellen DeGeneres changed my life," Stuart said by phone
from his Los Angeles home. "Things started to really change
for me in 97, when she came out. I started to work like
crazy, as an actor, in small parts on television."
His "work like crazy" appearances included TV shows
"Providence," "The Huntress," "Norm,"
"The Drew Carey Show," "Charmed," "Will
and Grace" and "Three Sisters," plus roles in "Lost
and Found" with David Spade, "Vegas Vacation" with
Chevy Chase and several independent films.
"It made it OK for me to come into the room," he said.
"I spent my 20s walking around, going into (audition) rooms,
and having people dismiss me.... I never even got rejected. I
was dismissed.
"What that does to you as a human being is awful to be dismissed.
If Id wanted to be a hairdresser or an interior decorator,
I wouldnt have had this problem."
Stuart, who injects life experiences into his standup, promises
new, outrageous material when he takes the stage Wednesday through
Sunday at the Funny Bone Comedy Club in West Port Plaza.
"You'll langh, you'll cryit'll be better than Cats,
" he said. Stuart has been a comic for 19 years. He admits
to being "thirty something," but declines to be specific.
"I dont even know how old I am, Ive been lying
about my age for so long," he said.
Stuart, whose CD "Gay Comedy Without a Dress" is available
at www.jasonstuart.com, offers a wide-ranging standup performance.
"I basically talk about any thing," he said. "My
newest thing that I talk about is my fear of amusement parks.
You know now that Im getting older, I dont want to
go on a ride where I almost die."
Stuart got off the career roller coaster long ago and now seemingly
has nothing to fear. Hes particularly pleased about his
recurring role on the ABC show "My Wife and Kids," which
stars Damon Wayans. It can be seen locally at 7 p.m. Mondays on
Channel 30.
Stuart plays an openly gay psychiatrist, Steven Michael Thomas
who counsels a straight couple played by Wayans and actress Tisha
Campbell-Martin.
"Theyre so terriffc together," he said. "They
have such a wonderful chemistry. And hes so hot dont
tell him I said that."
Stuart feels his role is breaking new ground. "Im an
openly gay man playing an openly gay man, which is almost historic
on television," he said, laughing. "There dont
seem to be that many gay people playing gay people."
Stuart played the psychiatrist in an episode that aired in January.
The producers liked him and so did fans, who Stuart said sent
thousands of positive letters. So he will appear in three of the
four shows to air in May.
"The thing about my character is hes very different
than any character Ive ever played on TV," Stuart said.
"He's very, umm, nice, and I usually play somebody whos
a manager or in charge of some department or some store and no
one will listen to me. And Im always upset. So this is really
great."
Stuart was given more creative flexibility, even improvising lines
with Wayans. "Everybody was so supportive," he said.
"I have to tell you at one point during the show I went into
my dressing room and I just started to cry, I was so happy. I'm
not used to having people be so interested in what Im doing
and what Im saying. When youre gay in this business,
it's a different thing. You're usually there on the side."
Stuart
has a few words on co stars ranging from Arnold to Clooney
Comedian-actor Jason Stuart has worked with some of Hollywoods
biggest stars. Here are his takes on a few of them:
Arnold Schwarzenegger "Kindergarten Cop"
Stuart played a hairdresser. "What can I say?
Hes not an actors actor. He shows up. I would
do another movie with him in a minute. He was very nice to
me.... That was my first big studio picture."
Chevy Chase, "Vegas Vacation""My
scene was with him and Randy Quaid. I played a rude kitchen
worker. And after rehearsal, . . . he (Chase) said, Oh
so youre gonna be funny in this? And then he walked
away. The director comes over to me and says, Jason,
thats just his sense of humor. I said, Look,
Im gay and a nightclub comic and I went to public school.
There is nothing you can say to me that will offend me.
By the end of the day, we were great pals and he was speaking
with an English accent."
Martin Short, "Cross My Heart""I
played a funny waiter, and I can remember Martin not wanting
me to be that funny."
George Clooney, "Sunset Beat" (TV) "I
was so in love with himoh, my God." Clooney liked
to improvise. "I would learn my lines letter perfect,
and then he would say, Oh, lets just do whatever
we want. " Stuart had a recurring role as Marty,
the nightclub owner. He enjoyed working with Clooney. "He
was the sweetest, nicest man. I just wish I wouldve
sucked up to him. I didnt think he would go any place.
Oh, he was a mess." |
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St
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EXP Magazine
March 15, 2002 |
Up
Close & Personal
by March Jacobs
Jason Stuart :
Lots of new projects keeps comedian busy
Ask anyone
who are some of the busiest, most out there, and diversified
comedians in the U.S. today and without a doubt, lason Stuart
would be near the top of the list. With a recurring role on ABCs
sitcom MyWife and Kids, a newly released CD titled
Gay Comedy Without a Dress, a returning guest appearance
on Will and Grace, and recent guest shots on Charmed,
Providence,Three Sisters and The
Drew Carey Show, as well as a starring role in the romantic
feature film comedy, 10 Attitudes being featured in
film festivals and due to be released later this year, Jason Stuart
says, Things are going very well, better than ever! This
is what its all about!
Jason will be returning to St. Louis Funny Bone, at Westport,
on March 20-24, with his new show entitled the same as his CD,
Gay Comedy Without a Dress, which is available for
purchase only on his website at www.jasonstuart.com. It
was recorded at the Acme Comedy Company in Minneapolis, which
is one of my favorite venues, as is the Westport Funny Bone in
St. Louis. I am just so thankful for the support of the gay and
lesbian community in St. Louis because they have always been there
for me, sometimes selling out 8 days solid, when no one else knew
who Jason Stuart was.
Jason is sporting a new look which comes from the
fact hes been working out with a trainer for the past 4
or 5 years, with a renewed vigor to push myself farther
than I ever thought I could go and its working! He
has new material, new insults, that he targets poor unsuspecting
members of the audience with. He also has new exciting projects
that hes working on, which hes letting EXP readers
be the first to hear about! Along with my new manager and
producing partner, Bonnie Dore, weve bought the options
for a book by William Mann named Wisecracker based
on the story of Billy Haines, the out silent film
star of the 30s, to make a movie about his life. Im
also involved in the development of a project, with a very well
known talk show host, who I cant name at this time, for
a syndicated talk show in the near future. So Im very excited
about these new opportunities.
Jason is also excited that he was invited back to My Wife
and Kids in a recurring role from last season for three
episodes this year. I play a gay shrink who helps straight
people with their problems and God knows, they need it.
In one of the episodes, Jasons character tells the shows
stars, Damon Wayans and Tisha Campbell-Martin as hes counseling
them about their marital problems, Its like my Joseph
and I always say, together we can lick anything. Jason is
also set to return to Will and Grace in an upcoming episode in
a role he played last year, as the high strung manager of The
Duplex, where Jack, played by Sean Hayes, does his show,
Jack 2002. About these exciting opportunities for
a gay actor to play gay characters on nationwide TV, Jason says,
I guess its my turn and it feels great!
Jasons movie career includes his dramatic debut in Southern
Man, now available from Vanguard Video. In it, he plays
a teacher who mentors a student and is murdered when the students
abusive father mistakenly assumes the two are having an affair.
Its one of his favorite roles. Another movie in which he
has a starring role is 10 Attitudes, a romantic feature
comedy film now making the rounds of the film festival circuit.
It deals with a gay caterer, Josh who has moved from Idaho to
Los Angeles only to be jilted by his long-term lover for a younger
man in WeHo. A close friend challenges Josh that he can
help him find his Mr. Right in 10 dates, hence the
title, 10 Attitudes. Jasons real life mother
plays his mother in the film and sums up the premise for the movie:
At the end of the day, were all just looking for the
same basic human needto give love and find someone who will
give it back in return.
I asked Jason what he thought about Rosie ODonnell coming
out of her closet officially. Im thrilled! I could
not be more happy. Its already helped her tremendously.
Then I asked him if he thought it would have the same negative
effects on her career like it did Ellen DeGeneres. How can
you say it hurt Ellen? Shes hosted the Oscars, and did a
fabulous job, shes had her own HBO special, shes had
another successful show, and shes toured the country to
sold-out shows... Ellen changed the face of television and I wouldnt
be where I am today if it wasnt for her and what shes
done. Rosie is going off the air, but its her decision after
six successful years. Shell still have her Rosie Magazine,
shes been on Will & Grace, and will continue
to be an important voice for gay America. Jason was one
of the pioneer celebrities who came out nationally on Geraldos
TV show.
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Gaywatch:
Funny guy Jason Stuart
By Christine Champagne
Jason
Stuart winds up in bed with Damon Wayans in an upcoming episode
of ABC's "My Wife and Kids." But it's not what you think.
Really.
Those of you who watch the sitcom will recall that Stuart -- known
as an actor and a comedian -- appeared on "My Wife and Kids"
back in January as Dr. Steven Michael Thomas, the openly gay psychiatrist
who counseled Michael (Wayans) and his wife Janet (Tisha Campbell).
The role was supposed to be a one-shot deal. But the good doctor
proved so popular that the show's producers brought Dr. Thomas
back as a recurring character.
Stuart resumes the role on the Wednesday, April 3 show (airing
at 8 p.m. ET). The episode finds Dr. Thomas treating the Kyles
again. It seems Michael thinks the family isn't spending enough
quality time together. Dr. Thomas suggests they play games, so
the Kyle family goes home and tackles Twister. Michael hurts his
back and winds up in bed unable to move. Janet is convinced that
Michael's injury is psychosomatic and calls upon Dr. Thomas to
mend her bed-ridden husband. "So if you want to see me in
bed with Damon Wayans, watch," Stuart says, laughing.
Stuart's character has a partner on the show, although we have
not seen him. "Tell everybody to write to ABC and say that
I should come back next season with a boyfriend," encourages
Stuart, who's openly gay. And whom would Stuart cast in the role?
"Esai Morales from 'NYPD Blue' is my fantasy," he says,
adding, "But I'd like to have a real gay guy in the role."
Who knows? Stuart's wish could come true. The producers of "My
Wife and Kids" are apparently interested in developing his
character and have asked for his input. Stuart certainly appreciates
the interest. "You have to realize what's happening here
is really rare. I am an openly gay man playing an openly gay character
on a network television show in the family hour," Stuart
says, "and I think it's no mistake that it's a black family."
According to Stuart, Wayans -- who is one of the series' co-creators
and executive producers -- is a forward thinker. "I think
Damon is probably one of the smartest guys in television because
he sees what's happening, and he knows having something more diversified
on his show is going to give it a longer life," Stuart says.
"It's going to open it up to more kinds of people."
Aside from "My Wife and Kids," you'll also be able to
see Stuart on the Thursday, May 2 episode of NBC's "Will
& Grace" (airing at 9 p.m. EST), in which he reprises
the role of Stuart, the high-strung manager and emcee of the club
where Jack (Sean Hayes) performs. (Stuart also played the role
of Stuart -- no, that's not a typo -- last season.) Stuart likens
the experience of being on "Will & Grace" to being
on "Survivor," because "they cut the show so much.
If your scenes stay in, you're very lucky."
But "Survivor" is one show Stuart has no interest in
doing. "By the time you're done with it, you're so exhausted,
and you look so bad. No makeup. No hair people. ... I couldn't
do it. I'm not interested in anything that's real. Reality television:
it's too real."
How about appearing on a show like "Queer as Folk" then,
with its excellent makeup and wardrobe people? "They wouldn't
read me for anything. I was too old, and not a Canadian,"
he cracks.
Not that Stuart needs "Queer as Folk" anyway. His resume
includes an extensive list of TV credits, including stints on
"Providence," "Charmed" and "The Drew
Carey Show." He also appeared in the HBO film "Gia."
Stuart tackles his first lead role in a feature film in the upcoming
"10 Attitudes," a romantic comedy about looking for
love in Los Angeles. And he recently optioned the book "Wisecracker"
by William J. Mann, which tells the story of Billy Haines, the
first openly gay silent film star.
There was a time when Stuart fancied himself the next Robert DeNiro.
"But it wasn't going to happen, so I let it go and just put
one foot in front of the other," he says. "It's not
easy for gay people. I mean, just to get support from your own
community is sometimes hard."
But Stuart has managed to carve out a successful career for himself
in the industry, and if all goes well, maybe he'll even be back
on "My Wife and Kids" next season -- with a boyfriend.
"Get together a letter-writing campaign! You have the power,"
he says. So he'd really like to continue on with the show? "You've
gotta ask me? My God!"
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Gay revolution
UPI Arts & Entertainment - Scott's World
By VERNON SCOTT
UPI Hollywood Reporter
HOLLYWOOD
(UPI) -- Ellen Degeneres lost her new TV sitcom this year perhaps
because she had the audacity to come out of the closet a few years
ago.
Perhaps not.
But if her personal sexual preference
was responsible for the cancellation of "The Ellen Show" this
season cannot be ascertained, the blonde comedienne's courage
in acknowledging she is a lesbian has opened a new era for gay
and lesbian entertainers.
Comedian Jason Stuart credits his
friend Degeneres for kicking in the after-burners on his own stand-up
career and roles in primetime TV playing gay characters.
Stuart, openly gay, is recurring
on the weekly ABC sitcom hit "My Wife and Kids" as well as a gay
character in "Will & Grace" among other gigs.
According to Stuart, Degeneres'
outing and subsequent highly publicized love affair with actress
Ann Heche is a landmark in the acceptance of homosexuals throughout
show business.
"It's been a long road (for gay
performers)," the personable Stuart said this week, "but it's
been wonderful. I'm overwhelmed.
"Ellen coming out changed everything.
She made it okay. She changed television.
"I get down on my knees every day
and thank God for her.
"When she came out I did 10 shows
in a row: 'Drew Carey,' 'Providence,' 'Three Sisters,' 'The Huntress'
'Charmed,' 'Norm' and several independent films and a picture,
'Vegas Vacation,' with Chevy Chase.
"I was able to work. Before Ellen's
stand I would get one TV role a year and do my standup act.
"I've done probably 20 things in
the last couple of years. Ellen has lifted the wire for gay performers,
which includes playing gay characters."
Stuart said it took a great deal
of courage on the part of Degeneres, saying it is just as difficult
for lesbians to come out as it is for gay men.
"In some respects being a gay woman
is not as threatening as being a gay man," he said.
"It's different. In 'My Wife and
Kids' I play an empowered shrink. I'm an openly gay man playing
an openly gay shrink who has a husband in the show and is out
to help this straight couple.
"It's the top show on ABC right
now. It won the People's Choice award for best sitcom. It stars
Damon Wayans."
Stuart grinned and said, "Reporters
often ask me if my part is gay, meaning if I'm playing the same
gay character all the time.
"There are as many types of gays
as there are straights. My shrink is the sweetest, nicest man
who only wants to help this couple.
"The funny thing about him is he
can't help talking about his own relationships, which is so inappropriate
in therapy."
Stuart says he is content with being
gay, adding, "If I were straight I'd have had an easier life,
but then I wouldn't be who I am.
"In the gay press they call me 'Joe
gay guy.' I'm not masculine and I'm not feminine; I'm just a regular
gay guy. Everybody has a different perception.
"The straight world thinks gay people
are funny just because we're different. The way Jews were funny
in the Catskills and black people did comedy in days past. Because
they were different.
"Until we all become homogenized
it apparently will continue."
Stuart ordered lunch and observed,
"It's been an incredible year for me. A great deal of work."
He doesn't think he would have been
as successful if he hadn't come out.
"I don't think so," he said. "I
think it's more important to me to be an openly gay man than to
be a success. When I made that choice in 1993 to come out on the
Geraldo show it was difficult but I did it.
"When I was in my 20s at auditions
people basically dismissed me because I didn't want anybody to
think I was gay.
"It was sort of like I was Charles
Nelson Reilly or Paul Lynde, the prototype of a type of comedy.
That doesn't exist anymore.
"But this is 2002 and people aren't
afraid to say they're gay in real life.
"TV is catching up with real life.
I've been touring the country for almost 10 years doing openly
gay comedy and people are much more accepting than they've been
in Hollywood and New York."
Stuart's success story includes
a CD comedy record titled "Gay Comedy Without a Dress."
His CD like his standup act appeals
to cross-over audiences. Some of his material is gay, some is
straight, as are his audiences.
It isn't necessary for Stuart to
dress in drag and camp it up a la Milton Berle and other straights
who played gays for laughs.
Stuart is man enough to take chances
and sensitive enough to keep his act screamingly funny without
becoming bawdy.
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